First Look Friday: Trek Top Fuel SL, Fox Ranger apparel, Casco SpeedAiro RS helmet

R90k for an XT equipped bike.....

Dat be some good ganja youse is smoking there maaaaaan

R90k for an XT equipped bike.....

 

 

Dat be some good ganja youse is smoking there maaaaaan

And alu hoops, nogal.

Trek are trying to recover some serious R&D costs.

And alu hoops, nogal. Trek are trying to recover some serious R&D costs.

Suppose they are well known for their serious R & D but f*ck me....R90K!!

Or should R & D read rands and dollars.....

Looks like they pulled the design off the Pyga Oneten29 and made a couple small changes and added a whole lot of price tag.

Not sure that that price is correct.

I have my eye on a Fuel EX 9.8 and looked at the XT specced Top Fuel 9.8 SL this morning.It's also XT specced and selling for 4300 euro before 10% discount.One in the pic has Fox fork but standard has RS Sid.

R90k for an XT equipped bike.....

 

 

Dat be some good ganja youse is smoking there maaaaaan

And alu hoops, nogal.

 

Trek are trying to recover some serious R&D costs.

Suppose they are well known for their serious R & D but f*ck me....R90K!!

 

Or should R & D read rands and dollars.....

Not sure that that price is correct.

 

I have my eye on a Fuel EX 9.8 and looked at the XT specced Top Fuel 9.8 SL this morning.It's also XT specced and selling for 4300 euro before 10% discount.One in the pic has Fox fork but standard has RS Sid.

That price is what I would have expected.

• First off you got a full carbon full-sus frame. +40k
• 2016 Fox Factory suspension. ±30k
• Life time guarantee.
• $/R being the highest it's been in 15 years = +30% last years prices.
• XT 8000 + DT Swiss + XXX Carbon bar, etc = Not Cheap ±20k

If you go and build this bike in Trek's Project One System it gives you a price of $6 199.99 = R89345,57

So there can't quite understand all the moaning try find another US bike (let alone one with the pedigree and backup of Trek) that you can buy in SA for ± R750 more than you can in the US.

I wouldnt mind the helmet (always wanted to be judge dredd as a youngster)..but i think you need the skills to justify it to your mates...

Looks like they pulled the design off the Pyga Oneten29 and made a couple small changes and added a whole lot of price tag.

Trek & PYGA 110 share design cues, yes, except the rear triangle pivots at the axle on the Trek, vs just above & forward on the PYGA. Both floating shock designs though.

I'd rate the trek slightly above the PYGA in terms of suspension action though, purely due to that "split pivot" design, which is patented (and PYGA didn't want to infringe on any patent laws)

That price is what I would have expected.

 

• First off you got a full carbon full-sus frame. +40k
• 2016 Fox Factory suspension. ±30k
• Life time guarantee.
• $/R being the highest it's been in 15 years = +30% last years prices.
• XT 8000 + DT Swiss + XXX Carbon bar, etc = Not Cheap ±20k

If you go and build this bike in Trek's Project One System it gives you a price of $6 199.99 = R89345,57

 

So there can't quite understand all the moaning try find another US bike (let alone one with the pedigree and backup of Trek) that you can buy in SA for ± R750 more than you can in the US.

You are a bit ambitous with the pricing on the shocks...fox 32 you can get for 7k on crc and the rear flaot you can get for 5k...so that is a 15k saving there

The m8000 you can get for around 8k for complete set crc

Carbon bar will cost around 2k... and call the etc etc another 5k so that goes to a total of 15k so another 5k saving there

Wheels you culd probably get for around 8-10k ....so the bike is overproced by around 10-15k if you take the frame from trek superstore for 40k

Overpriced by about R25k.

No just no

For that kind of cash I can get something with real pedigree and snob value.

For R52k anthem advanced includes carbon hoops same suspension and full XT 8000 and it's R38k less.

And the oke that suggests a giant is not in the same class as a trek is sniffing his own year old unwashed socks and undies.

There's taking the piss and then there's American bike pricing

You are a bit ambitous with the pricing on the shocks...fox 32 you can get for 7k on crc and the rear flaot you can get for 5k...so that is a 15k saving there

The m8000 you can get for around 8k for complete set crc

Carbon bar will cost around 2k... and call the etc etc another 5k so that goes to a total of 15k so another 5k saving there

Wheels you culd probably get for around 8-10k ....so the bike is overproced by around 10-15k if you take the frame from trek superstore for 40k

You could actually just go to cwc and get yourself a tallboy frame for 33K , which in my opinion is a better frame and then have a better bike for 22k less

You are a bit ambitous with the pricing on the shocks...fox 32 you can get for 7k on crc and the rear flaot you can get for 5k...so that is a 15k saving there

 

The m8000 you can get for around 8k for complete set crc

 

Carbon bar will cost around 2k... and call the etc etc another 5k so that goes to a total of 15k so another 5k saving there

 

Wheels you culd probably get for around 8-10k ....so the bike is overproced by around 10-15k if you take the frame from trek superstore for 40k

Negative on the FOX Stuff. For the current Factory stuff you won't get away with less than 14k for the fork alone. 

M8000 was just selling on the fire sale on CWC for 10k, with a normal price of about 15k on CRC with taxes. 7k is for the 2014 XT level stuff. 

So no, it may not be as cheap as you think it is to spec a bike to this level....

EDIT: I'm not saying the price is good, I'm saying that these things add up very quickly.

The Anthem Advanced 1 is a good comparison though. Main difference is the 20k plus differential on the frame price... And I saw it today at CWC - REALLY, REALLY PRETTY!!!!

Overpriced by about R25k.

No just no

For that kind of cash I can get something with real pedigree and snob value.

For R52k anthem advanced includes carbon hoops same suspension and full XT 8000 and it's R38k less.

And the oke that suggests a giant is not in the same class as a trek is sniffing his own year old unwashed socks and undies.

There's taking the piss and then there's American bike pricing

Yeah i agree, i was just tryimg to take the ,ost expensive components in that category

Yeah i agree, i was just tryimg to take the ,ost expensive components in that category

Also - we're looking at retail pricing for the goodies. I can guarantee you now that the cost to the big bike manufacturers are about 1/4 of what we see...

You are a bit ambitous with the pricing on the shocks...fox 32 you can get for 7k on crc and the rear flaot you can get for 5k...so that is a 15k saving there

 

The m8000 you can get for around 8k for complete set crc

 

Carbon bar will cost around 2k... and call the etc etc another 5k so that goes to a total of 15k so another 5k saving there

 

Wheels you culd probably get for around 8-10k ....so the bike is overproced by around 10-15k if you take the frame from trek superstore for 40k

Sorry mate, I recommend you do some research and educate yourself before you comment about things you clearly are not knowledgeable on and please compare apples with apples.

Firstly what you are looking at on CRC is a 2013 Fox Evolution Series Fork which is a piece of Cr@p not a 2016 Factory Series and the same goes for the Shock (so add 3 years a Fork that is worlds better and the R/$ going from 9-1 to 14-1).

Secondly Please tell me how you get to 8k for the groupset?

The driveline will according to CRC set you back ±R5900 now add Brakes, Rotors and adapters and that's R2100 a side. 

So you get R10100.00

Now add Seatpost 1.5k, Stem 1.4k, Race Saddle 2.5k, Grips R280, Tyres 1.9k, Tubes R100, Wheels, Carbon XXX bar at R2600 direct $ exchange. = R10280.00 so you were 3k out on just etc. Plus Wheels ±7k

This takes it to 17k without Headset 1k, Cables R200, Bottom Bracket R500.

So call the total 19k.

Again you do not know what you are talking about don't just some thumb suck a figure of "around 2k".

Sorry mate, I recommend you do some research and educate yourself before you comment about things you clearly are not knowledgeable on and please compare apples with apples.

 

Firstly what you are looking at on CRC is a 2013 Fox Evolution Series Fork which is a piece of Cr@p not a 2016 Factory Series and the same goes for the Shock (so add 3 years a Fork that is worlds better and the R/$ going from 9-1 to 14-1).

 

Secondly Please tell me how you get to 8k for the groupset?

The driveline will according to CRC set you back ±R5900 now add Brakes, Rotors and adapters and that's R2100 a side. 

So you get R10100.00

 

Now add Seatpost 1.5k, Stem 1.4k, Race Saddle 2.5k, Grips R280, Tyres 1.9k, Tubes R100, Wheels, Carbon XXX bar at R2600 direct $ exchange. = R10280.00 so you were 3k out on just etc. Plus Wheels ±7k

This takes it to 17k without Headset 1k, Cables R200, Bottom Bracket R500.

So call the total 19k.

Again you do not know what you are talking about don't just some thumb suck a figure of "around 2k".

Sorry, Spoke, but you're wrong on this one.

Trying to "build up" the bike based on retail prices Joe Soap pays is incorrect. Trek has massive buying power and pay significantly less for every components slapped on that bike. Do you think BMW, Audi, etc, etc. pay retail prices for the tyres they spec on new vehicles? 

My opinion: the bike is priced according to the space of the market it occupies, the recouping of R&D on a new model, and so on and so on.

Sorry, Spoke, but you're wrong on this one.

 

Trying to "build up" the bike based on retail prices Joe Soap pays is incorrect. Trek has massive buying power and pay significantly less for every components slapped on that bike. Do you think BMW, Audi, etc, etc. pay retail prices for the tyres they spec on new vehicles? 

 

My opinion: the bike is priced according to the space of the market it occupies, the recouping of R&D on a new model, and so on and so on.

I totally agree and know how it all works. That's why the bike retails in SA for pretty much the same as the US. The difference between what Joe soap buy's it for and what Trek do in this case is Treks profit.

Overpriced by about R25k.

 

No just no

For that kind of cash I can get something with real pedigree and snob value.

For R52k anthem advanced includes carbon hoops same suspension and full XT 8000 and it's R38k less.

 

And the oke that suggests a giant is not in the same class as a trek is sniffing his own year old unwashed socks and undies.

 

There's taking the piss and then there's American bike pricing

I'll agree that Giant is an incredible value for money bike. 

There are a few differences when you get down to the nitty gritty.

Full Carbon frame vs Carbon/Alu frame and Carbon wheels, Now you get grades of Carbon and I'd like to see the differences. I know Trek use some sort of special impact resistant carbon/resin layup.

On the other hand no one can compete with Giant the worlds largest bike manufacture who at various points in time have made bikes/parts for Scott, Trek, Colnago, Specialized, Lapierre, Schwinn, Fuji and Bianchi.

Giant also owned 30% of a key supplier for many other brands.

Myles you are right...

Nb. Lesson to self, dont post stuff late on a friday night.

I still believe it is overpriced

Sorry mate, I recommend you do some research and educate yourself before you comment about things you clearly are not knowledgeable on and please compare apples with apples.

 

Firstly what you are looking at on CRC is a 2013 Fox Evolution Series Fork which is a piece of Cr@p not a 2016 Factory Series and the same goes for the Shock (so add 3 years a Fork that is worlds better and the R/$ going from 9-1 to 14-1).

 

Secondly Please tell me how you get to 8k for the groupset?

The driveline will according to CRC set you back ±R5900 now add Brakes, Rotors and adapters and that's R2100 a side. 

So you get R10100.00

 

Now add Seatpost 1.5k, Stem 1.4k, Race Saddle 2.5k, Grips R280, Tyres 1.9k, Tubes R100, Wheels, Carbon XXX bar at R2600 direct $ exchange. = R10280.00 so you were 3k out on just etc. Plus Wheels ±7k

This takes it to 17k without Headset 1k, Cables R200, Bottom Bracket R500.

So call the total 19k.

Again you do not know what you are talking about don't just some thumb suck a figure of "around 2k".

Yeah sorry only saw 2013 now...but it was late at night so i must have missed a few things....all i am saying that for that price i can build a much beter bike.. my humble apologies...

Hey guys, we also thought the price tag on the Trek was a little on the steep side, but one thing to keep in mind is that this is essentially a Project One (custom spec) bike which does inflate the price a bit vs. off the shelf spec. The guys at Trek SA put it together so they could bring a few to test out while they wait for the standard spec to become available. We'll get details on that pricing asap for a fairer comparison to other similarly specced off-the-shelf 2016 bikes.

die koel is deur die kerk

Sweet. Thanks for that clarification, Matt.

Still would love to give it a go. Last trek I rode was the old fuel ex sixer in 120mm guise