360s on a DH bike

[Mongooser]

I recently built a nice big flyout

 

started doing 360s on a bmx and landed them fine after about 17 tries

got it right on jump bike after that the next day

 

tried on the DH bike and I get bucked off.

When leaning in i lean back a bit because flat spinning supposed to make it easier and spotting over the shoulder.

 

The bike at about 150 degrees throws me off cant figure out why. jump bikes dont do it to me but a full susser i cant swing around.

 

this video is pretty much what happens to me

 

 

I lose the bike exactly at 150 and do a 360 with out the bike

have done about 60 attempts of this without getting hurt, im starting to think i need a bigger jump and im not pulling  hard enough?.

 

anyone here have advice with 360s on full DH rigs?

 

really want to get this trick in the bag but not die in the process  

I do wear  body Armour and a neck brace...

 

 

 

 

 

 

[popcorn_skollie]

Big bikes are harder to toss around. Because they're heavier. Especially older ones. People often think pinners have it easy because they shuttle. Sure. Valid point. Climbing is hard work. But try tossing a 17kg bike down some chutes all day. What a workout. You only know how exhausting it is when you're done. I've had shuttle days take more out of me than long rides on a trail bike.

 

Thing is. We're seeing more and more slope stlye riding on big bikes recently because the bikes are that much lighter these days. So because DH rigs aren't as heavy as they use to be. Pros are tossing them around like bmx bikes. Pushing the envelope. That's not to say some guys didn't pull off the same stunts back then on older heavier bikes. But its far more prevalent now that bikes are lighter. More people pulling it off. 

 

Building your own strength helps too. Core muscles and so on. Do some push ups. Errday. 

[Mongooser]

Big bikes are harder to toss around. Because they're heavier. Especially older ones. People often think pinners have it easy because they shuttle. Sure. Valid point. Climbing is hard work. But try tossing a 17kg bike down some chutes all day. What a workout. You only know how exhausting it is when you're done. I've had shuttle days take more out of me than long rides on a trail bike.

 

Thing is. We're seeing more and more slope stlye riding on big bikes recently because the bikes are that much lighter these days. So because DH rigs aren't as heavy as they use to be. Pros are tossing them around like bmx bikes. Pushing the envelope. That's not to say some guys didn't pull off the same stunts back then on older heavier bikes. But its far more prevalent now that bikes are lighter. More people pulling it off. 

 

Building your own strength helps too. Core muscles and so on. Do some push ups. Errday. 

guess ive got some time to stronger and stuff, cant do anything stupid on a bigger jump

cuz got a DH camp on Tuesday. should just build a big mulch jump in the mean time

 

a 15kg DH bike will cost 30k so ill just work on fitness a bit more if it helps

[Psyrax]

I also think that the bigger wheels create a much bigger gyroscopic effect than the smaller BMX wheels - therefor more force is needed to 360 the bigger bike.

[Eddy Gordo]

looks like you can try and get into line abit sooner on take off. Maybe start from one side and move to the other to get the momentum going just before you fling it around

[Mongooser]

looks like you can try and get into line abit sooner on take off. Maybe start from one side and move to the other to get the momentum going just before you fling it aroound

 

 ill give that a go. 

[Gnarly]

Safe to say, at least you know when to eject.

[Letum911]

No help from me. But dude, got bucked off 60 odd times without getting hurt on?! You owe the gear company royalties by now!! Welldone for sticking with in!

[Mongooser]

No help from me. But dude, got bucked off 60 odd times without getting hurt on?! You owe the gear company royalties by now!! Welldone for sticking with in!

they should pay me for testing it  

[Duane_Bosch]

Maybe slow your rear rebound right down? But take note of the clicks before so you can revert when you are done.

[Mongooser]

Maybe slow your rear rebound right down? But take note of the clicks before so you can revert when you are done.

I should probs also  try that

forgot rebound will cause bucking

[Capricorn]

Maybe slow your rear rebound right down? But take note of the clicks before so you can revert when you are done.

 

i was thinking along the lines of suspension as well. Without the ground, the suspension pushes against the feet to rebound the rear wheel after it leaves the take-off lip. I was imagineering, that the momentum from that rebound would cause the bike to separate from his feet at the pedals.

So either jack that shock air pressure up high, or slow the rebound down, or both. The objective is to get the rear to act as closely as possible, to the rigid setup presented by your BMX/DJ whips.

[CdT85]

Are you rotating your head/shoulders enough? on a heavier bike also try lifting the front end a bit higher. This brings your center of gravity/axis of rotation more inline with your body.

 

Wish I still had it in me to take multiple hits trying to pin a trick. I will leave that to you young guys that can still bounce back up

[Mongooser]

Are you rotating your head/shoulders enough? on a heavier bike also try lifting the front end a bit higher. This brings your center of gravity/axis of rotation more inline with your body.

 

Wish I still had it in me to take multiple hits trying to pin a trick. I will leave that to you young guys that can still bounce back up

if i look to much back the bike doesn't spin and you get thrown off before you even launch,

Ill give a Huck 360 a go, just pull the bars in like a tuck. that might work

 

when doing a 180 flat i do something similar.

i turn about 90 on the back wheel and then hop to get the spin going

[CdT85]

if i look to much back the bike doesn't spin and you get thrown off before you even launch,

Ill give a Huck 360 a go, just pull the bars in like a tuck. that might work

 

when doing a 180 flat i do something similar.

i turn about 90 on the back wheel and then hop to get the spin going

 

I used to under rotate as well, but that was from not throwing my weight around hard enough and being afraid to over rotate. Start with the tuck 360, and as soon as you can pin that, start trying to do it normal.

 

Else practice with a lighter dj rig, to get your method right.

 

took me a while to learn on a bmx, and then had to relearn on my dj bike. never attempted it on a dh rig though. good luck and post videos as soon as you pin it.

Edited December 4, 2017 by Otero

[Mongooser]

I used to have under rotate as well, but that was from not throwing my weight around hard enough and being afraid to over rotate. Start with the tuck 360, and as soon as you can pin that, start trying to do it normal.

 

Else practice with a lighter dj rig, to get your method right.

 

took me a while to learn on a bmx, and then had to relearn on my dj bike. never attempted it on a dh rig though. good luck and post videos as soon as you pin it.

will def get vids of the fails and hopefully the one where i land it.

 

ill rather over cook then land 270