Reme Le Hane Posted September 20, 2020 Share I suspect one does not exist but anyway, new pikes chains stays are pretty wide, so keep knocking them with my heels when pedaling. Is there a safe way to move the pedals further out, google pointed me to some extended bolts and that just seems like it will adding a week point to a place you don’t want one. The DMR Vaults have a decent bolt spacing, but an extra 10mm would do wonders for clearance, are this extenders safe or is there a replacement spindle with a longer bold I could upgrade too or do I just wait for new shoes so that I can change my foot position. As a temp I simply just pedal with my feet further out, but obviously want proper placement went going down so still get some knocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaGearA Posted September 20, 2020 Share Not 5mm each side, maybe a 2mm spacer on the pedal each side is the max I'd risk Maybe you could play with a Dh crank and lots off bb spacers Pure Savage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reme Le Hane Posted September 20, 2020 Share Not 5mm each side, maybe a 2mm spacer on the pedal each side is the max I'd risk Maybe you could play with a Dh crank and lots off bb spacersLol, I was talking 10mm a side... PeSandy Bike Pedal Extenders, 1 Pair Chrome-Molybdenum Steel Bicycle Pedal Extender Extended Pedal Spacer Fit Any 9/16 in Threaded Pedals Bike SPD MT MTB BMX Road Street Bicycle, Extended 20mm/ 0.79in https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZN265CB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_aQ3zFb9X9565B That is the most likely going to kill me extenders I found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaGearA Posted September 20, 2020 Share Lol, I was talking 10mm a side... PeSandy Bike Pedal Extenders, 1 Pair Chrome-Molybdenum Steel Bicycle Pedal Extender Extended Pedal Spacer Fit Any 9/16 in Threaded Pedals Bike SPD MT MTB BMX Road Street Bicycle, Extended 20mm/ 0.79in https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZN265CB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_aQ3zFb9X9565B That is the most likely going to kill me extenders I found. Yeah if you like walking I rather wouldn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porqui Posted September 20, 2020 Share How much do you weigh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.K.A Posted September 20, 2020 Share Hi have a look at the SQ lab website they have pedals with longer spindels i have bought a set last week Reme Le Hane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reme Le Hane Posted September 20, 2020 Share How much do you weigh?96/98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reme Le Hane Posted September 21, 2020 Share Hi have a look at the SQ lab website they have pedals with longer spindels i have bought a set last weekThose don’t look like very good pedal options, other than being ugly. 2 of the 3 are clipless and Vaults are flat pedal. Their own flat pedal is quite literally a commuter pedal, you don’t put that on a MTB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky DQ Posted September 21, 2020 Share Why would you want to increase the Q factor? Unless you have seriously duck feet a few mm should be fine. I have a Mommsen hardtail and the chain stays are also way too wide. This results in scuffed shoes as well as all the paint off the chain stays already. However I can't accommodate the wider Q factor even if I wanted to as it brings with it other issues, especially knee pain.So before going 10mm per side consider the possible consequences. They are not pleasant. Mojoman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted September 21, 2020 Share Richard Baxter the "Bike Fit GuY" has imported some 10mm extenders. He installed them on my wife's bike when she had a bike fit done with him. Quality product. Maybe contact him? dasilvarsa and NicoR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra Posted September 21, 2020 Share when I lived in the States, 20-odd years back, I bought a set of these: https://www.kneesaver.net/ Seems company still makes them, they worked well for me... Keen to know what your SAFETY concerns are; I can GOOGLE what safety concerns may be, but cannot THINK of any; each one had thread that tightened as you pedaled, so as not to come loose - let me know!Chris Edited September 21, 2020 by Zebra DJR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted September 21, 2020 Share Reme, I'd say that the only "safe" way of moving them further out is to get an engineering shop to either make up an extension, or a longer spindle. The easiest way would just be to either ignore it, or adjust your heels out slightly. Put some protection tape on the chainstays to prevent paint damage, if that's important to you. The most expensive would probably be to get pedals with a wider platform, or with a platform that starts further away from the thread (longer spindle) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reme Le Hane Posted September 21, 2020 Share Reme, I'd say that the only "safe" way of moving them further out is to get an engineering shop to either make up an extension, or a longer spindle. The easiest way would just be to either ignore it, or adjust your heels out slightly. Put some protection tape on the chainstays to prevent paint damage, if that's important to you. The most expensive would probably be to get pedals with a wider platform, or with a platform that starts further away from the thread (longer spindle)That’s the buy new shoes but, they too well worn in now to adjust my footing. Seems like that’s the best bet. when I lived in the States, 20-odd years back, I bought a set of these: https://www.kneesaver.net/ Seems company still makes them, they worked well for me... Keen to know what your SAFETY concerns are; I can GOOGLE what safety concerns may be, but cannot THINK of any; each one had thread that tightened as you pedaled, so as not to come loose - let me know!ChrisThe extension snapping, it’s adding a potential weakness, some of the reviews I read on the ones I found on Amazon mentioned exactly that, the extension snapping while ridding. DisturbMTB and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Posted September 21, 2020 Share Why would you want to increase the Q factor? Unless you have seriously duck feet a few mm should be fine. I have a Mommsen hardtail and the chain stays are also way too wide. This results in scuffed shoes as well as all the paint off the chain stays already. However I can't accommodate the wider Q factor even if I wanted to as it brings with it other issues, especially knee pain. So before going 10mm per side consider the possible consequences. They are not pleasant. TDFN has valid a comment about being aware of the other problems that a wider Q factor may bring. That being said, Shimano have cranks like the XT (FC-M8130-1) which have a Q factor of 181mm. Depending on your current cranks, that may be a significant change. I also have a friend who has a custom pedal spacer of about 60mm for one side, so it can be done. Edited September 21, 2020 by Potato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra Posted September 21, 2020 Share Thanks. From an engineering perspective, I cannot see it snapping; I am not an engineer, but work daily with engineered items (alu, mild steel, stainless...) and given depth of thread + material + load, would-be very, VERY surprised if they could snap/pull out, in my experience, having ridden extensively with them. CheersChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotShatterProof Posted September 22, 2020 Share Agee with Zebra and Potato above. Cranks with a larger Q factor are available (one of the incarnations of Saint I think). Also agree, it would be very unlikely for steel to snap. Bending, especially if you're doing jumps or other crazy stuff at close to 100kg (with bottles etc.) may not be advisable. At various times while my not shatter proof body was recovering from not shatter proofness I rode with a self made 5mm extender with no ill effect on the pedals/cranks, but I weigh less and have given up trying to be a downhiller. I found the 5mm spacer did improve scuffing on the frame/cranks but I found the long term effects are detrimental (on your body). I would question why you need such a wide stance and possibly consider a shoe insert along with a small spacer and/or cranks, to get a cumulative effect. Still, you should have your shoe setup checked if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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